Article: Ramses II was King Solomon (?)
I'm posting this because I imagine elreb would be interested in it. And I'm curious what he thinks…
Courtesy of WhatReallyHappened:
http://ancientegyptweblog.blogspot.com/2006/03/ramses-ii-was-king-solomon.html
How do I put it ? ….
Frikken UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!
You came to the same conclusion independently on your own!???!??
OK, that's it. – I'm a believer.
WOW!!!!
The funny part is that I came to this conclusion totally on my own without reading any outside information.
Needless to say…if Ramses II does become Solomon…then Solomon was Ahmose II in 600 BC.
I do like Seti becoming David because this puts Jerusalem in Egypt…as I have already stated.
You can say Wow …after I paint the bigger picture…
And you can get drung again…
To start with…a simple breakdown, the alleged founder of the 18th dynasty was Ahmose I and we understand that Saul married Ahinoam, daughter of Ahimaaz.
The experts would have you believe that Ahmose I was the son of Seqenenre Tao II but in reality Seqenenre Tao II was “Ish-bosheth” the son of Saul. This would most likely make Ahimaaz = Ahmose I because it is also spelled Amasis.
http://mindcontrolblackassassins.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/aa-seqenenre-tao-ii.jpg
Saul being called a son of Kish most likely meant a son of Kush.
I'm glad all of this is getting posted here, so I can refer to it. The evidence stacks up ….
Food for thought
At the time of Ahmose 1…Thebes rebelled against the Hyksos [Semitic people] who he in turn expelled. His mother was Ahhotep 1. [?Ahinoam, mother of ?Ahimaaz].
Saul and David fought Amalek…Amalekites chief of Edom [Semitic people], Amalek whose mother was Horite [Horus]
Solomons enemy was Hadad chief of Edom [Semitic people]
Ramses II fought the Amorite, Amar [Semitic people]
Humm…Amar = Amalek = Hyksos = Semitic people
Breaking down the complexity of post-Abraham Israel may help understand how the 17th, 18th and 19th dynasties of Egypt were more or less one dynasty.
Part 1 is to demonstrate how big this family really was then I’ll get into details.
First issue is to stop using the word “Egypt” and start using first “Nilus”. From here we have Mitzraim for the northern delta area and Kush or Theban for the southern or upper land area.
West of “Nilus” was called Libya and East of “Nilus” was called Arabia.
Lord of the two lands was more relative to Sumer/Babylon being one land and Nilus being the other land.
Israel United:
Reuben
Simeon
Levi
Judah
Issachar
Zebulun
Dan
Naphtali
Gad
Asher
Joseph [Ephraim & Manasseh]
Benjamin
Northern Kingdom: Reuben, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Simeon, Joseph [Ephraim and Manasseh]
Southern Kingdom: Judah, Benjamin
We first note that the division from Northern Kingdom and Southern Kingdom are the same as the divisions of “Nilus”.
We second note that the Northern Kingdoms were those of the House of Joseph whose sons were of Royal Egyptian blood.
Now Saul on the other hand was of the House of Benjamin and called son of Kish which most likely was son of Kush. He became the House of Saul.
David was of the House of Judah and called son of Yisay. He became the House of David.
To start with…a simple breakdown, the alleged founder of the 18th dynasty was Ahmose 1 and we understand that Saul married Ahinoam, daughter of Ahimaaz. They had four sons and two daughters. The sons were Jonathan, Abinadab, Malchishua and Ish-bosheth [Seqenenre Tao II] their daughters were named Merab and Michal.
The experts would have you believe that Ahmose 1 was the son of Seqenenre Tao 2 but in reality Seqenenre Tao 2 was “Ish-bosheth” the son of Saul. This would most likely make Ahimaaz = Ahmose 1 because it is also spelled Amasis.
Now when they came into the house, as he lay on his bed in his bed-chamber, they smote him, and slew him, and beheaded him, and took his head, and went by the way of the Arabah all night.
David had seven brothers and he was the youngest.
Jesse begot Eliab, Abinadab, Shimea, Nethanel, Raddai, Ozem, and David the seventh. [also Elihu] Now their sisters were Zeruiah and Abigail.
David had eight known wives, although he appears to have had children from other women as well:
* Michal, the second daughter of King Saul was first married to another man
* Ahinoam of Jezreel
* Abigail, previously wife of the evil Nabal
* Maachah
* Haggith
* Abital
* Eglah
* Bathsheba, previously the wife of Uriah the Heth [Uriyah ha Chiti]
In his old age he took the beautiful Abishag into his bed for health reasons.
As given in 1 Chronicles 3, David had sons by various wives and concubines; their names are not given in Chronicles.
By Bathsheba/Yuya, his sons were:
* Shammua
* Shobab
* Nathan a prophet
* Solomon = Ramses II [Sun] = Ahmose II [Moon]
His sons born in Hebron by other mothers included:
* Amnon [Amun] was the progeny of David and Ahinoam
* Daniel was the progeny of David and Abigail
* Absalom was the progeny of David and Maachah
* Adonijah was the progeny of David and Haggith
* Shephatiah was the progeny of David and Abital
* Ithream was the progeny of David and Eglah
His sons born in Jerusalem by other mothers included:
* Ibhar
* Elishua
* Eliphelet
* Nogah
* Nepheg
* Japhia
* Elishama
* Eliada
According to 2 Chronicles 11:18, another son was born to David who is not mentioned in any of the genealogies:
* Jerimoth
David also had at least one daughter, Tamar, progeny of David and Maachah and the full sister of Absalom, who is later raped by her brother Amnon [Amun].
More food:
Jeroboam was born the son of Nebat, an Ephrathite [House of Joseph] from town of Zereda whose mother's name was Zeruah. Nebat may be a Nabu…of the Nabopolassar or Nebuchadnezzar family like Nabonidus who were connected to the temple of the moon-god Sîn in Harran. Harran was the home town of Abraham.
[Zereda, Zererath, could Xereda = Xerxes.
King Ay/Hystaspes begot Darius/Horemheb who begot Xerxes/Zerxes.
Jeroboam (yarobh`am; Hieroboam [Horemheb] commonly held to have been derived from riyb and `am, and signifying "he pleads the people's cause.
He was the first king of the break-away ten tribes or Northern Kingdom of Israel, over whom he reined twenty-two years. He was the son of a widow of Zereda, and while still young was promoted by Solomon to be chief superintendent of the "burnden", the bands of forced laborers.[Temple builders] After the death of Solomon he fled to Mitzraim.
All very logical. Yes, I too suspect that the writers of history tried very hard to separate from, hide the ties between, the biblical patriarchs and the royal families of Egypt and Babylon.
To be contemporary with Solomon/Ramses II…I would guess that Amnon was Amenhotep III
Bible lists Amnon’s mother as Ahinoam who was possibly married to both Saul and David. If so making her the daughter of Ahimaaz/Ahmose 1
Records list Amenhotep III’s mother as Mutemwiya [Mother in/of the divine boat] If so making her the daughter of Artatama 1 of Mitanni.
Mutemwiya is claimed to be the sister of Yuya who married Tuya…who fits perfectly with Tuya being the mother of Solomon/Ramese II.
Remember…Bathsheba [Tuya] was the first wife of Uriah the Heth [Uriyah ha Chiti]
How does Uriyah or Uriah compare to “Yuya”?
Yuya is described as an “Upper Egypt” noble person of foreign origin [Asiatic] with a son named Anen.
It may be a stretch to collate “Uriyah” to “Yuya” but it is interesting that Mitanni was next door to Hatti…[Home of Abraham]
It is just as interesting comparing names like “Anen” to “Amnon” making me think we are in the same era…
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Near_East_1400_BCE.png
Kassite is also Kushite…
Well, that makes a whole lot more sense than being from 'Ur' near the Persian Gulf – being that Haran was named (?) for his brother.
Perhaps I wrote that too fast…should have said:
Next door to Hatti…and that Abraham is believed to come from Edessa/Urfa or the “Ur of Kasdim” which is about 25 mile north of Haran or 50 miles north-East of Carchemish…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edessa,_Mesopotamia
Exactly. For those who are scratching their heads, there were major shifts of power (migrations) from place to place which should be attributed to natural disasters …
Only because it is current news…the earthquake in Japan…shows…that the “Kraken” water monster cannot be dated.
I would gather that …it was some event like this…that Perseus was chasing…
First wave…sorry Charley…
This is so Moses…w/o the Volcano…
I concur…
Earthquakes and there resulting Tsunamis are hard to date from the past.
Power shifts from migration and immigration could happen overnight.
Troy VI could be an example or even Rapanui [Ra-p-Anu-i]
Did anyone notice that the Egyptian symbol for town…could be some type of a cross?
Apparently, “Harr-Anu” was the Northern Anu or “Harem” of/for women
Jacob went to "Haran" to get a woman and “Dah”…Leah's womb = she gave birth to Levi and Judah…
Rachel's womb of "Haran" became the mother of Joseph and Benja-min. [Min]
Haran is Mitanni…Aram-Naharaim…
This is really simple…
The relationship between Jacob and Esau [Red} is so Roman.
“Ar” and Arsenic…
I’m not sure how hard this one is going to be but south of the Black Sea there was the Kingdom of Armenia which encompassed the highlands of Ararat, the legendary home of Noah’s Ark.
Around 860 to 843 BC, there lived a king Arame [Aramu] whose capital was located at “Arzashkunu” in a land once called Ur-Artu.
The western area of Armenia was called Aram and the area around Haran was called Aram-Naharaim a place that was in communication with Akhenaten in Amarna. We have already mentioned that this is the homeland of Abram. The Chaldea of Anatolia was home of the Chalybes in the Land of the Halys.
We hear mention of the Halys River in 585 BC due to the Battle of the Eclipse. The Halys flows into the Black Sea about 46 miles west of “Sinop”.
The city "Sinuwa"… Sinope, Turkey was founded as a Greek colony from the city of Miletus in the 7th century BC. The name derives from “Ar-Sen-ikon” [Sinopic red earth"] a name given to the red arsenic sulfate also known as “ruby of arsenic” or “Realgar”.
The moon god “Sin” came from Haran… Alchemical symbol for arsenic is the Jewish Star…
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Arsenic_alchemical_symbol.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Star_of_David.svg
It came as no surprise to me that the yellow and red paint pigments found at Amarna and on the head of [alleged] Nefertiti was made from this exact same Arsenic mineral.
I still think that Ariaramnes, Arsames and Ramses are related…
Good post, elreb. That area is the HEART. 36th parallel – someone somewhere along that latitude first described the original 48 constellations. (Including Draco!)
I think that I need to make a correction…
Miletus appears to be Minoan and not Greek. The Greek connection seems to be drawn from the misnomer that Zeus was Greek which we know to be baloney.
This would now make Amisos Apolonia Dioscurias Histria Odessos Olbia Panticapaeum Phanagoria Phasis Pityus Sinope Tanais Theodosia Tomis Tyras Trapezunt all Minoan…and a natural disaster around 700 BC.
Tut’s tomb was sealed with the “Nine Bows”
Syria, Assyria, Arabia, Cappadocia, Phrygian, Lydia, Caria, Phoenicia [Minoans], and Babylonia
[There were actually two Phrygia’s = big secret stuff]
Guess why Egypt and Kush are missing on the list…
If during the Civil War, both the French and the British supported the South but subsequently lost…do you think the North would claim the crown of the South, along with the crowns of France & Britain?
I believe that Egypt and Kush were family and may have had some tribal squabbles but were not considered as foreign.
Bottom line is that Ramses II was a brother or half-brother to Amenhotep III